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StumpJumper1
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Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:08 am Posts: 22
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 new longtail owner- need driving tips
just picked up a 16 horse go devil longtail, and have never driven one. i think i've driven every outboard ever made, just not a mud motor...
can you gurus give a newbie some tips on driving a longtail? it's gonna be on a 1546 jon, and i'm gonna install a grab bar (still figuring that out).
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| Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:00 am |
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Turn key. Put trottle wide open hold on. Good luck
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| Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:05 am |
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maxus11
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Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:47 pm Posts: 204
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Wear kill switch and life vest. And hold on. Get some driving time. Take the turns carefully. My long tail I can make sharp right turns, but left turns suck cause I can't pull the handle far enough while standing in the way but I don't have room to move out the way. 16x42 with 27hp
_________________ -Casey
GTR 35 on a 17x54 gator series with hunt deck SOLD to krogers
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| Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:23 am |
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tylerduckman
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:40 pm Posts: 844 Location: Tyler TX
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
_________________ Semper Fi
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| Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:49 am |
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brianb
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Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:02 pm Posts: 534 Location: louisiana
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Absolutely most important is the Kill Switch followed closely by the life jacket as stayed above
They have a tendency to throw u if u not careful Also never let go of the handle when running, see the statement above If by chance u do let go see the first statement
All of the above has been learned from experience
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| Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:14 pm |
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instagator911
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Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:36 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Behind the hood next 2 da bright light! SETX
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
make sure you can fit your body between your grab handle and end of tiller.
_________________ Jay Dore
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| Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:19 pm |
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eljefe
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:32 am Posts: 5210 Location: Beaumont Texas
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
all the lts i have driven 13hp and up, I have never been able to hold onto a grab bar, both hands were on tiller.....get some tiller time in on it, you may not need it....i find they get in my way.....kill switch and life preserver are a must.
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| Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:38 am |
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tylerduckman
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:40 pm Posts: 844 Location: Tyler TX
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
These things won't buck you off , the worst thing is when you hit something with the tail / prop it will pull the handle out of you hand and can violently turn the boat in another direction. IE the kill switch and life preserver. Get some time running it and you'll be fine.
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| Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am |
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Glades Ranger
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Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Ask yourself how fast do you really want to be going when you hit that submerged log,stump, or other obstacle? I slip on that kill switch lanyard even before I turn the key. Plenty of stick time, but just like flying don't get too overconfident. Grab bar for sure.
_________________ Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI
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| Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:32 pm |
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Running a longtail in a narrow, winding, shallow stream is probably the most fun I can have with all my clothes on. The longer the boat the more challenging it becomes. Going upstream is always easier than going down. Going down, be sure to keep power in so you have steerage. the faster the stream the more power you need to negotiate the turns. Without some power .that stream is going to take you places you may not want to go. Plan your route as far ahead as you can see. Trying to make a hard turn at the last minute takes a lot of muscle and it's easy to overcorrect. If you are running where there are no obstructions the longtail is a piece of cake, but if you get into stumps, trees or narrow switchbacks you can't sightsee. Concentrate on where you are going and set up your turns ahead of time. It's kind of like trying to seduce an inexperienced lady. Plan your moves ahead. Make your moves gently and don't get impatient. If you don't think ahead and plan your moves there is a good chance you aren't going to reach your goal without a lot of difficulty and you might just get the crap beat out of you. You older guys should understand what i'm saying.
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| Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:22 pm |
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cupped up
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Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:25 pm Posts: 4205 Location: St. Amant, LA
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
When in doubt, pull out!
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| Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:16 pm |
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GeeLeDouche
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:24 am Posts: 455
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Just take it easy until you get the hang of it. I remember my very first time driving my long tail, scared the shit outa me and I dont think I went faster than half throttle. but the more you drive it the more comfortable you'll get with it. and dont forget to slow down when your coming in to dock, aint no reverse on these suckers. 
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| Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:24 am |
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Glades Ranger
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Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:32 pm Posts: 1490 Location: south Florida
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Get you a stout push pole- reverse gear. The next investment is a good paddle. You need plenty of leg room to do the LT dance. 
_________________ Sailing in the sawgrass /1648 grizzly and Swomp 26.5 EFI
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| Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:35 am |
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muzz
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Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:39 am Posts: 17
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
I just got my first longtail also .Do you let the tail go as deep as it wants to go ? I live in utah and we have man made marsh no tree or logs the water go from about 5 feet next to the dikes to 8 inch of water with 8 inch of mud. I have a 16x48 boat a 16 hp motor i am only getting maybe 5 to 8 mph it has a 9 inch prop i don't know the pitch on it what would be a good pitch size to put on it thanks for your info
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| Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:03 pm |
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swamprat26
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Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:01 pm Posts: 757
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
9x3 or 9x4. I have a 14x42 with a16gdlt and get 14mph loaded till it looks like it wants to sink. 17mph with just me. I let it dig to the depth it wants.
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| Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:14 pm |
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swamprat26
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Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:01 pm Posts: 757
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Jw261
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Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:20 pm Posts: 96 Location: Lower Alabama
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
I've been driving my 16 GDLT for 2 years now. I feel like I'm riding a horse sometimes. I can kick it to go left, but if it wants to go to the right it will. Not really......just take it slow and you'll get it. When you get in thick mud, I have found that sometimes you have to move the tiller side to side to get it to start pushing you forward. Also watch for too hard of a bottom. Around here we have some hard oyster shell bottoms and you will get stuck because there is nothing for the prop to dig into. Its moments like these that I regret not wearing waders anymore.
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| Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:45 am |
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etibby
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Joined: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:56 pm Posts: 7
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
[quote="swamprat26"]9x3 or 9x4. I have a 14x42 with a16gdlt and get 14mph loaded till it looks like it wants to sink. 17mph with just me. I let it dig to the depth it wants.
Swamprat26, sounds like you know what your talking about so ill ask. I have 13hp honda with a 9x5 prop and if I let it dig itll kill the motor. Am I running too big of a prop?
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| Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:52 pm |
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SouthernWake
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Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:59 pm Posts: 292
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
^yes look into an 8x4
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swamprat26
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Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:01 pm Posts: 757
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Go to go devil's website. They list the props they use. Somewhere between the 9hp and 16hp. You are def. running to big of wheel.
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| Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:04 pm |
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indawoods
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Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 287
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
shift load weight left to right till tiller torque disappears. shift your weight to help with turns.
don't panic, push the handle down and surface the prop when things get hairy.
no death grips on the handle, or the first log will dislocate your shoulder. let it go and catch it on the way up.
it's all stick time from there.
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| Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:07 pm |
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Howdy
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Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:50 am Posts: 359
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| Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:55 pm |
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stualaska
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Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:34 am Posts: 578 Location: North Pole, Alaska
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Turns to port are usually the easiest and give the best swing because the tiller is on the port side of the engine. When making sharp turns, especially 180's I try to set them up to port, if possible.
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| Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:01 pm |
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Buzz Killington
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Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:33 pm Posts: 2455
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
X2 on Stu
Brandon MacDonald
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| Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:41 pm |
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kib876
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Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:16 am Posts: 612 Location: Orange, Texas
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
You will go places you never could with an outboard, just wear kill switch and be careful in slow turns until you learn it. When it bites it is gonna torgue
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| Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:23 pm |
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barnes_53
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Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:14 pm Posts: 4781
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Pads for your left leg!
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| Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:43 pm |
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Swamper01
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Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:57 pm Posts: 470 Location: Running between Manchac and the Basin
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
The hell with long tails. They nice for shallow hard bottoms and areas with alot of logs but dam i just hate em now. Just last week i got thrown out of the boat with mine(thank God for killswitch) but i just sold it and looking at what surface drive to get
But when driving make sure you wear your dam killswitch and make sure it works and hold on for dear life haha
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Russ
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Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: new longtail owner- need driving tips
Check the date. I bet the OP is gone or has figured it out by now. The spammer didn't even post about a longtail, he's just trying to sell seats in his defensive driving course. He didn't check the date or read the post either.
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Swamper01
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Joined: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:57 pm Posts: 470 Location: Running between Manchac and the Basin
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Russ
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Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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