I HAVE A X36 PRODIVE WITH THE POWER REVERSE THE BOAT IS F86 1851V EXCEL BOAT WITH THREE GUYS AND GEAR THE ONLY DOES 16-18 ON A GOOD DAY . WITH NO GEAR WITH ONE PERSON ABOUT 23-25 IS THIS ABOUT RIGHT SEEMS SLOW . I ALSO HAVE A MOD 1 ON THE MOTOR

get a better boat.....you should be running 27-29 empty......also get some tiller time, it may just be you havent found the sweet spot on the trim...

I like the boat I have had it about year and half I have tried everthing .

what rpms are you getting wot? you could buy a new boat for what you will be spending on mods to achieve the speeds other boats get....

4200 4250 there and about Thought about to sell the boat and motor and trying something new. We hunt a few places that are a good ride take for ever

with the rpms you are turning, measure your prop, if prop is good then boat is your problem.

Other than what eljefe said, I'm assuming you have the correct motor height and transom height? Tall - tall or short-short.



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Possibly need to shim the motor to reach the desired transom angle?

yep transom angle could be the issue also....

It has the tall 20 in transon and long shank on the prodrive . The prop is good new as of the transon angle dont no never thought of that one . does anyone no what it is for a proddrive and f86 excel

On an excel... Prolly gonna be set for a mutt buddy. What mutt buddy? 18-20degree angle? And the right transom angle for a pro drive, so I've been told is the same for an outboard.. 12-15

F 86 is 15 degree and I talked to pro drive and they said thats will work just fine . So I will sell this one and start over

Think a little this time!

The excels are really heavy boats (I had one), your not going to get great performance out of that hill, without a lot mods.Your best bet is to stick with the pd(unless you want a different motor) and go to a better hull.

Your speeds are probably close to right with a stock motor and that boat in deep water. Mods, I couldn't say. They are similar to what I get on stock. I am probably slower loaded in deep water. Shallow and loaded is totally different story for me.

Loaded down, mine is like a tug boat in deep water. Makes for a long trip down the bayou black marina canal and ICW. It's a relief to hit turtle bayou pipeline and ride the edge of the marsh. I am no expert by any means, but from what I have read on here, the vee on the Excel probably hurting you. Just a guess.


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I thought I did look and think about it , but it is funny how much more you find after you buy . i was thinking about getting a mud buddy 55 mag , may just hunt with ome more year then sell