strange things going on in America these days

makes me wonder

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Damn Fahd piss ranger p off lol other then uncle j. He has made 5 of 6 comments Iike everyone is reading this lol I started too then Zzzzzzzzzzz. Yep conservative

Look at the bright side of things. They will start to pay equal taxes as if they were a married. Two guys can't live together and say they are room mates and single if they get married. There is no way someone can tell me kids grow up normal if they are raised by gay people. That is just wrong to me.

Hernaja1

step up to the plate and swing.

WBS did you read the article he posted from Boston about how homosexuality was being introduced to children at the elementary school Age without giving the parents the option to opt their children out or restrict their exposure to these disgusting acts. I would opposed to and outraged if someone taught my 5 year old it was ok for him to butt f__k another dude and I could say without a doubt you or most other parents would be also

"If you don't like watching Will & Grace, it don't mean there's something wrong with you. It means there's something wrong with Will! He's a homosexual."

-Clayton Bigsby

Walkers Bay Synd

Your comment – “You beliefs are yours but the fact is those numbers you quoted don't stack up.”


give me your numbers

When your moral compass seems to have more in common with Lady Ga Ga, then it does with the Founding Fathers, we have a problem.

I don't believe in redefining what marriage is. But with homo's making up almost 3% of the population, I think we should have domestic contracts for them and any other make up. It would allow for polygamy and other forms of domestic partnerships.......but give equal rights to the consenting adults and their partnership beliefs. "Marriage" is the ceremony, churches wouldn't have to have ceremonies for partnerships that defy their beliefs, but some would. And marriage ceremonies don't have to be religious.

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No intention to offend.

accept it or not it still happens.....just like with the war on drugs....do laws stop drug use? if drugs were legalized, ther wouldnt be anymore drug users, those that want can get now. we need to get away from making laws on moral religious grounds...people will act how they want with infifference to the law...do you speed on the highway? And a dog is not a person and does not hae the right to sign a contract. But all deviant partnerships exist now, it would just extend visitation rights and beneficiary rights etc to those partnerships.

you are comparing apples and oranges.

You are reading far more into my posts than there Ranger.

I certainly respect where you are coming from on this subject, however the issue of homo sexuality and its social issues starts in the home.
I have never said I like it or condone it, but I do not habour a hatered for something that I cannot change.

homosexuality and polygamy are between consenting adults. Is it godly or christian to deny a person the right to see their partner if they are dying in the icu at the hospital where visitation is limited to immediate family? I dont agree with giving them ss rights and all that stuff, just saying that they should be allowed to be beneficiaries and have other rights that are now blocked, mostly due to state laws and the federal regulations dealing with hippa and insurance....I am not for homosexuality or any other deviation of partnership but I am not going to "punish" them for their decisions. And I am all for the benefiets given to man and woman in marriage because of the potential for a family.

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You don't have to condone it to acknowledge its a fact, gay people exist. Some gays are christian...I don't know why but they believe in a god but not what he says. Go figure..... should those that worship Satan be allowed to marry? How about people who worship a tree, should they be allowed to marry. What about people who have no belief in a god or gods. Quoting the bible or torra(?) Does not make it law to a hindu or budast. You have quoted the bible about homosexuality, but what of polygamy? Rape, incest and bestiality are not argued because they are non consensual forms of a sex act. Homosexuality and polygamy are lifestyles. Rape incest and bestiality are not.

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It's an abomination in the eyes of GOD . Read up on soddam and ghomora , and you will see how wickedness is punished. It is all adding up to the moral decay of our society . Just because the level of tolerance has made this acceptable to many will never make it right . My .02 $

Eljefe

I do not think you are getting what I write.

A marriage is the union between a man and a woman. I am not willing to change the definition to fit a small percentage of degenerates. What is next, do we hand them the whole dictionary and let them define words in any way they like?

A civil union? Just another way of recognizing a marriage, but in legal terms.

I do not see the benefit in recognizing that which I know is wicked.

As far as you saying gays are Christian. I dot believe this. The Biblical term of Christian is a sinner that is born again. If you read the book of Romans (first chapter), it basically tells me that those that practice homosexuality have a wicked and seared mind, where they can not even respond to God any longer.

When you look in the old Testament, the kings after David that "did right in the eyes of the Lord", are the ones that tore down the meeting places of the sodomites. they ran the sodomites out of the land, and God blessed them for it.

God holds me accountable for my vote. I should be a good steward with my vote, and I will not vote for that which I know to be wicked.

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Being an army man you will have a better idea than me of how many conflicts our 2 countries men have fought and died in together, so in the big picture our ideals are too far apart.

Since your view is so strong on Homosexuality, (You know my thoughts on this already and genuinely am interested ), How would you stop/prevent it then going forward?

Walkers


Sorry, I am not exactly tracking on your question.

Definition of WICKED
1: morally very bad : evil
2a : fierce, vicious <a wicked dog> b : disposed to or marked by mischief : roguish <does wicked impersonations>
3a : disgustingly unpleasant : vile <a wicked odor> b : causing or likely to cause harm, distress, or trouble <a wicked storm>
4: going beyond reasonable or predictable limits : of exceptional quality or degree <throws a wicked fastball>
— wick·ed·ly adverb


you see homosexuality as definition 1, I see it as 3a......... your beliefs are what make homosexuality morally bad. I find homosexuality disgustingly unpleasant. I dont base laws on morality. Morality cannot be dictated to a person it is a part of the persons character. In the jewish tradition and in the torah (old testament) masterbation is also considered to be evil and morally wrong. I dont know the exact quote but something about spilling seed......... consenting adults should have the freedom to have any relationship they choose regardless of which religion finds it morally wrong. I understand you have a strong christian faith and think the bible should be the ultimate law, but our country was founded on the freedom of religion and that also means the freedom from religion. If we were a muslim founded country we could just stone our queers and not worry about them. But in a free country such as ours you must allow people freedom and liberty. If they choose to defy the christian on mulsim or jewish god (the only gods that speak of homosexuality) then it is their freedom to do so. And they should also be able to have some of the same basic rights as any other partnership, such as hospital visitation rights or insurance beneficiary rights etc..... The great thing is we live in a free country and Ranger, you dont have to associate with them or even like them. You can damn them to eternal hell by your gods written word. By allowing gays and polygamists some basic rights, it will have zero effect on you. just like the fact queers can marry in conneticut right now....... how has the last 2 years of gay marriage effected you?

I am still not exactly sure on what you are asking,

eljefe

read this - http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marr ... index.html

2 Chronicles 7:14 is a verse that comes to mind almost every time I watch the news.

I am a firm believer that jesus hated queers and loved whores. I also don't believe in redefining marriage. But I do believe in domestic partnership contracts. And believe gays could get them or two aging sisters or whoever, that would enable certain rights but not all the rights conveyed to "married" couples.

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No where in the Bible, are we told that Jesus hated queers.

Jesus hated sin, and loved the sinner .