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Mr. Guidry - being a lawyer, I am curious to your thoughts on the Zimmerman trial.

This thing is not playing out anything like I would have assumed, but then again, I am not a lawyer.

To me, it looks like the prosecution keeps calling witnesses that come out way stronger for Zimmerman.

I also get the feeling that there is almost a reversal role for a murder trail. The prosecution seems more to be defending Martin, and the defense looks to be on the attack.

To have a star witness for the prosecution claim that Trayvon Martin called Zimmerman a "Creepy Ass Cracker" puts Martin in a racist light.

The police that got called in to testify all seem to be more on the side of Zimmerman, and are backing up his side of the story.

While I am far to the right in my views, this trial seems to almost be putting many tenants of liberalism on the stand, and liberalism seems to be getting a black eye. The story ABC news told is looking like a big fat lie, the rhyming reverends (Jessie and Al) are coming out looking like race baiters, and the entire left leaning MSM seems to be getting beat up for defending Martin, and portraying him as the innocent little kid, and Zimmerman as the racist. From watching the trial it seems to be the opposite.

On the head cuts as not being "life threatening". I was under the assumption that the injury does not have to be life threatening, the perceived threat has to be life threatening. If a dude came at you with a knife, you do not need to get cut to shoot him. I would think that if a dude is on top of you, beating the snot out of you, and telling you that he is going to kill you, it could be perceived as deadly.

I have heard many of the liberal talking heads claim that Zimmerman is the aggressor, because he did not stay in his car. As far as I know, there is no Florida State Statue that makes getting out of your care to investigate something strange in your neighborhood a crime. One could say that had the 13 year old girl not left her house, that rapist would not have raped her. Blaming Zimmerman for getting attacked is not passing the logic test to me, nor would be blaming a girl that left her house and then got raped.

No shortage of lib talking heads also claiming that Zimmerman failed to "obey" the police order. To my knowledge, the orders or requests from a police dispatcher over the phone are not "lawful orders" that must be obeyed. Am I correct?

I would also question the crowd that blames Zimmerman for following, or questioning Martin. Once again, there is no state law that prevents you from following your fellow man down a sidewalk or talking to him.

What say you? I am curious as to why the prosecution is using the present strategy, and what you think about that strategy.

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It's not up to you, me or anyone else to judge. Only the jury can. There are thousands of trials each year all over the country just like this one. There's nothing special about this case except for the media attention. I have not followed the case at all. I deal with lawyer stuff all day long and don't need to spend my leisure time doing the same thing. Sorry. But I don't mind answering legal questions of a personal nature in pm's like I've done for many.

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All you ever need to know about the racism in our media can be summed up in one simple question. If both Zimmerman and Martin were black, would there have been even 30 seconds of national media coverage?

Racism has now come full circle in America. It is now Haute Couture to blame the white man. White racial slurs are tolerated openly on tv, such as "creepy ass cracker" yet any black racial slur is bleeped out (unless black folks say it.)

And I am not even a little bit racist. I work side by side with black folks. I have many black customers I see daily. But the agenda of the media is so blatantly obvious.

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This case is a bit odd to me.

Over the years, I have watched a few of these high profile cases that were aired on TV. Most notably, I watched the OJ trial and the Casey Anthony one.

In these cases, mountains and mountains of evidence gets presented against the accused. With OJ, there was absolutely no doubt that he did it. We had the chase in his Bronco, evidence found at his home with DNA from his wife, he had the motive. In the Casey Anthony trial, we knew that she put the kid in her trunk and threw her in the swamp, and then was out that night, getting jiggy with it at a night club. In the end, they both walked away innocent while we all knew they were guilty.

in the Zimmerman case, there is no evidence against Zimmerman. No DNA, no eyewitness, nothing credible to show him guilty. Basically, the liberal news and the rhyming reverends declared Martin innocent based on skin color, so that must mean you have to hang a guilty verdict on Zimmerman (the white Hispanic, creepy ass cracker), merely because of skin color.

On the other hand, there is much evidence showing Martin to be the 17 year old, six foot 160 pound, gold tooth, tattooed, thug wanna-be, dope smoker, suspended from school three times, but the MSM is running a smoke screen to cover it up, so they can send an innocent man to prison.

I believe there are a number of reason for this clown show trial.

The number one reason is color. Martin has to be innocent, based solely on his color. Ignore all the statistical crime facts showing the 12.5% of the black population doing half the nations' murders, leading in rape, burglary, armed robbery...

Second reason is that our president interdicted, and made the claim "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon". The MSM created him, thus they must defend him.

Third is gun control. Libs hate our second amendment, and they want it to go away. ANy chance they get to make the legal gun owner look bad, they will.

Fourth is the possibility of riots. We know what happened in 92 during the Rodney King riots. Even though people know Zimmerman is innocent, they are afraid of what might happen if he walks away with a Not Guilty Verdict.

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I hope when GZ is found NG they impose martial law.

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Look,,,,its easy to look at evidence and see guilty/innocent. Or at least get a good honest opinion!!

Why is it that Guidry ran far from this one? Why at least no opinion? That blows my mind how he is so intrained in his liberal beliefs that he cannot even give an honest opinion?


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Alright, you've dragged me into this. Prosecution strategy? It's only as good as your witnesses and he has to take them as they are...not very good. You don't know that until they testify. You can't predict that, and if you judge a witness's ability incorrectly, you will be in deep trouble with your case. Don't know if this was a grand jury indictment or not, but sometimes the DA in particularly high profile cases that are a close call, will defer to a grand jury as to what charges, if any, to bring against an individual. The DA is in charge of that proceeding and many times can control the out come, but occasionally the grad jury will return a no true bill, which takes the heat off of the DA because he can't be blamed for it. Did a little google research and found this article on the prosecutors decision not to present this case to a grand jury. Every state's laws are different. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bennett-l ... 45714.html

Had the encounter between these two individuals ended in just an ass whipping, we would not be discussing it. But because Zimmerman used a weapon and Martin was killed, a whole different set of parameters were in effect to determine what path to take for the prosecution, including public opinion and media scrutiny.

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Ranger,

I agree with all you said. Very good commentary. I will disagree with you slightly on Casey Anthony. I cannot believe she did not do it or knows who did it. But I saw this website that condensed the evidence and put it in bullet points. They could not connect her with hard evidence that she actually did it beyond a reasonable doubt. They needed more evidence that put her at the scene of the crime, and they could not.

But if she did not do it, she knows who did, I think. And that in itself should have gotten her some sort of conviction. sometimes these women---the hotter they are, the nuttier they are.

The professor said yesterday on the stand that if anyone feels that their life is in any danger, they have the right to defend themselves in any way that neutralizes that threat. Nothing else is needed. And the evidence of Zimmerman's broken nose and cuts on the back of the head confirm that. And forensics confirm that the gun was fired in such a way that was close and part of a struggle to be in the lower chest.

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Thanks for replying,,,

But i think what we all really want to know from you is, do you think Zimmerman has a "fair chance"? Dont you think that he was more "guilty till proven innocent"? As mentioned in other post, if zimmerman was black we wouldnt have probably even known this has happened...

Above all Guidry,,,dont you think Zimmerman is being racially attacked? Geez man,,i get your point and your fight for equality,,,i really do. But dont you see the MSM has unfairly prosecuted him before he even had his day in court???

Dont you see, the left is heavy in favor of race baiting? Are you????


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X2 but i do hope he gets off. The problem is the only people who know what went down is Zimmerman and Martin. GZ was made out to be a racist murderer looking for a fight. MSM and the Federal Govt. should have never taken it the way they did. It has been definitely been a bad example of how the justice system is.

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Im talking about the president saying the things he said and im not 100% correct on who the individual was but he was a politician protesting to the house wearing a hoodie. Those individuals are the ones who are racist and sway the outlook on the situation.

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dguidry -

Your comment - "It's not a federal case. It's the state of Florida"

I do not think he was meaning to call it a "federal case". I think he was referring to the fact that it should have stayed a local issue, but the MSM, the Rhyming Reverends, and even our President turned it into a national event.

When the President said "if I had a son, he would look like Trayvon" it helped blow it out of proportion.

If I had a son, he would look like a law abiding, and respectable citizen. I would not wish to have a teen son with tattoos, gold teeth, flipping the middle fingers while smoking dope, and looking to buy an illegal gun online, and who calls people "creepy ass cracker".

This entire court case is about one thing, and one thing only. Trayvon Martin embodies what Obama, democrats, and liberals have created. A class of people with outstretched hands, with no morality, with a "give me" attitude, with no respect for others. Trayvon is a byproduct of the multicultural education system, rap music, MTV, failed parenting, and a left leaning MSM.

They (the libs) created Trayvon, and thus they must defend him. If defending him means sending an innocent Hispanic/Jew who happens to be a registered democrat to prison, then they do not care. They must protect their creation at all cost. They do not care about the facts, laws about self defense, the past history of Trayvon. They want Zimmerman's head on a stick.

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If you do not believe this entire circus act is only about color, then watch the clip on the bottom of this news story.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1380615


Take note that the news woman will tells you that the man in the white shirt has a conceal carry permit. Notice that they do not say anything about the man in the red shirt who is blazing away with a pistol at a man that is running away from him. He literally shot the man in the back while he is trying to escape.

The man that shot did not get arrested or charged.

Do you think the rhyming reverends (Jessie and Al) showed up to protest a black man, shooting a fellow black man in the back?

How comes ABC news is not making a fuss over this one?

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Not sure what your point is in your last comment, RangerP. Shooting someone in defense of another is also a defense to murder.

I will declare the following to which I don't thing there is much disagreement:

1. Some media outlets sensationalized this case because the victim was an African American. Had this occurred in New Orleans between two African Americans it would not have been.

2. President Obama statement that his hypothetical son was like Martin was a mistake.

3. I think Zimmerman will be found not guilty. Everyone, including President Obama, thought he was guilty until the photos were published which showed that Martin was beating the crap out of him. Given that evidence I would have never charged him with second degree. But it is a typical DA strategy to overreach with charges in an attempt to squeeze out a guilty plea to lesser charges. Sometimes that startevgy backfires and you are forced to try the case. That's what happended here.

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it kills me. probably half of those waiting on a pair of shoes are on welfare, and probably have families of 9 kids waiting to be fed and they are buyin a pair of 180$ pair of shoes. the product of our now society. me me me. they can wait in line for a week but not get in line for a job. your welcome American people that are on welfare for us buying you shoes. ridiculous.....

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Your last comments were as rock solid as anything I have ever seen you write on the politics forum.

I will stand up and salute you for the direct answer and honesty.

Dad Gum, we might just have to link up and build a wood boat after all.

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President Obama is human. I thought it was a PR mistake for him to comment on this case so early in the process. Who knows what else was on his agenda that day. He'd probably been briefed that morning and someone, maybe him or maybe an advisor, deemed they had enough information to at least comment. It is obvious now they were wrong to have said anything so soon.

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Speaking of agendas and media hype and the extreme impression the leftist media has stamped on this case...has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, this all-women jury has been pre-selected long before the jury summons ever left the court house? It seems no matter what evidence is there, whether enough or not enough to convict GZ of murder, if the right group wants him to be guilty...he will be guilty.

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Dean,

Just throwing this out there..... What if the DA didn't want to file charges in the first place based on initial reports/investigation, but due to the BS media coverage and pressure, caved. Any chance the prosecution is not really trying to succeed????

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The following link is worth the read

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