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tchauvin
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 Ivermectin treatment sucess..
FYI,,,
My dog was on preventative and popped a positive test. Well the option at the time given was a 740 dollar treatment. As u know, they pretty much poison the dog to kill the heatworms. So I got a second opinion and was told that I could "cure it over time with ivermectin.
Well the dog tested negative for worms today, approx 1 year into it...so if u have a dog test positive this may be another option. This was highly advised against by one vet, yet was recommended to me by another.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:45 am |
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deltaduckmaster
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My vet on my yellow had me giving my dog double monthly doses of their pill. Double the cost she was also against ivamec. I give both my dogs it now and have been for years.
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:49 am |
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deltaduckmaster
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$40 bottle and I still got a 1/4 left. Been having it for 4 years now my 60lb yellow gets a 1/2 cc and boykin a 1/4 to 3/8 cc
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:50 am |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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The bottle will expire before u use it all on two dogs lol. But it is suppose to be 1tenth of a cc per 10 lbs I give my dogs always a hair more but not client dogs
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:53 am |
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deltaduckmaster
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My boykin has never even been to a vet.
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:55 am |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Bigrich
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Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:52 pm Posts: 7064 Location: Mallard country
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I give mine zimecterin gold once every 3 months gets all worms
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:02 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Know he is he just has u believing he isn't that's his job he has to pay the bills too
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:22 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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da go get'er
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 3406 Location: Prairieville
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_________________ 17*38 Klibert 23GDLT I toast to staying positive and testing negative!
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autogateman
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Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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I use the horse paste every other month
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:41 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Bigrich
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da go get'er
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_________________ 17*38 Klibert 23GDLT I toast to staying positive and testing negative!
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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da go get'er
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_________________ 17*38 Klibert 23GDLT I toast to staying positive and testing negative!
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cmiller73
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Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:42 pm Posts: 2161 Location: Houma,LA
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Ivermetrin ONLY kills juvinile worms/microfilaria. It does not kill adult worms if by chance they got infected. Ask kungfu35 about his pup he bought not long ago. Tested positive for worms and he is/was on Ivermectrin.
The easiest way to get rid of them withut killing your dog is the way we do it when treating a HW+ dog. 30days of doxy which pretty much sterilizes the female hw and helps killing off the microfilaria/larva. Then they are put on prevenative. My vet uses proheart injections. Then they get 1 shot of immitcide after 30days, which kills off the worms and they start breaking up. 30 days later they get 2 shots within 24 hours. This one is the worse, because you have to keep the dog calm or issues can occur. Pulmonary embolism can kill your dog. 45-60 days later they should test negative for HWs. It does take a while but it is safer this way.
I wanted to do the ivermectrin dosage but just didn't feel good doing it.
Found this article on the net The Most Effective Against Parasite for Dogs Is Ivermectin. The Food and Drugs Administration (FDA) recognizes that ivermectin for dogs is a medicine that is used for the treatment for dogs who have mites, ear mites, heartworm, lice and those with mange. The liquid ivermectin for dogs can shorten the life of fully developed parasites. However, it does not eradicate it. The medicine is valuable both for analyzing and the healing of mites and other parasites. Dogs with mange feel irritated, uncomfortable and can contaminate other dogs. This can also lead to hair fall and infections. Injectable ivermectin for dogs are utilized to avoid the heartworm from scattering by killing the young heartworms. This medicine is ideal for dogs that are not yet affected by mature worms hitherto. There are people who still decide to use Ivermectin for dogs although their pets are contaminated with mature worms because if the pets are not badly infected, other kinds of treatment may be expensive. Side effects should also make us wary because an overdose can intoxicate the dog or can cause difficulty in breathing and may cause death. In view of the fact that Ivermectin for dogs is a moderately low dosage treatment, it does not make it risky for the dog. Therefore, side effects to this kind of remedy will only occur if the dog is given large doses. Side effects are confined to particular types of dogs primarily because of the hereditary structure. This dose drug when used simultaneously with other prescriptions like tick choker can have an effect on the brain function of the dog. Ivermectin for dogs can be brought online. On the other hand, you must be on your guard against giving the dosage of ivermectin to your dogs without a doctor’s prescription for it might lead to overdose. One should know how much ivermectin must be given otherwise it will lead to complications. This may happen for the effect of higher dosage will be a ground for much demodectic mange to be killed instantly. Without a timely medical help, it can cause damage to his body system and may result to death. There is also oral prevention against ticks and heartworms that you can buy online. It is better to consult a doctor before giving your dog any demodex or ivermectin. In this way, you can be assured that the right amount of medicine is administered on your dog without the fear of overdose which may lead to side effects. If you still decide to give your dog the medicine for any reason, it is better to read the instructions before giving the pet any dosage. Afterwards, try to observe the reaction of the dog to the medicine. Horse ivermectin for dogs is so easy to use and also convenient. Treatment using this method is only done once in a while and therefore does not need to be given daily which is burdensome especially if dogs hate taking the oral prevention or the injectable ivermectin for dogs. The drug is given only once for a period of 30 days. The veterinarian will usually prescribe Ivermectin for dogs when the infections start to materialize. One must remember that the treatment will depend on the size and weight. Both injectable ivermectin for dogs and liquid ivermectin for dogs are available online at famous prices. One should also remember that this medicine can be used as treatment for dogs who are already one month and a half. Remember to read the instructions prescribed by the doctor or always read the instruction label and to continue the medication even though the dog looks healthier for there might be some ear mites and/or heartworm left behind. Parasites live in cycles so it is always helpful to continue the treatment, if not the parasites might not respond to the drug.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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tchauvin
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tchauvin
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tchauvin
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tchauvin
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Damn phone! Sorry..
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cmiller73
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_________________ Copperhead 12Hp SD on 1442 Alweld
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tchauvin
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Heart worms are bad period they actually bore holes through the dogs heart
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autogateman
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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autogateman
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It has a wheel on the plunger that's marked in 100 lb increments. My dog weighs about 100 so it's easy.
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Bigrich
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Mine is for 1500 and is in 50 pound increments
For like 20 bucks! Revolution was like 100 every 3 months much cheaper for me
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:39 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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tchauvin
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The lab I used to have was 60lbs. One I got now is 90-95 and I heard a good bit of negativity about him being so big! His parents were not that big, so no telling where it came from. Only negatives I can say about the larger dog is, he eats noticeably more than my smaller dog! And shits equally as much! And yes, I have tried the fancy foods! Still shits like a cow!
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:49 pm |
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Bigrich
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Mine weighs 110 and I think the puppy food I fed him made him grow bc moms was 60 and daddy was 80
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:55 pm |
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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Don't put them big bastards n a pirogue y'all better make them swim Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:58 pm |
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CatSquirrel
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It's been my observation that most of the breakthroughs are when dogs are on off the shelf ivermectin products such as HeartGuard and IverHart. These products contain 272 mcg of ivermectin, which is a low dose that can be given to some of the herding breeds (like Border Collies) who are sensitive to ivermectin. My suspicion is that it eliminates most of the filaria but maybe not all....and remember our working dogs tend to be exposed to lots more mosquitoes than a typical house dog.
I've only heard of one breakthrough from a person who uses 1% solution given orally, and he was sketchy on remembering to give his doses. I put my reminders on my phone and am diligent as hell about giving them.
I once did a quick calculation as to the typical dose with 1% at .1cc per 10 pounds and if I remember correctly, the dosage given to a Lab at that rate is about 16 x the dose in a HeartGuard pill. Ivermectin has a safe history and you have to give it at really high doses to have any ill effects. I remember a study with beagles that didn't show any ill effects until 128 x the usual dose. My memory may be off though.
Still, I feel quite comfortable using 1% solution given orally. I typically give it twice a month at .1 cc per 20 pounds just to be safe on the dosage rate and have never had a HW positive dog.
If you know the HW cycle, you really don't need to give it more than once a month since HW's take about a month to develop in a dog.....still, in South La. , with our mosquitoes, I prefer to make sure.
One of the economic benefits is that I can treat two dogs for about $1.60 per month versus the going rate for off the shelf products. I've had people ask me about the "treatment guarantee" that the off the shelf products offer, but quite frankly, they will wiggle out of treatment for HW positive dogs if your record keeping isn't exact and anyway, the treatment damages the dog. I prefer to use what works and not rely on their shitty "guarantee".
If I had a HW positive dog, I would go the doxy/Advantage Multi route and retest in a few months.
Just my opinion.
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kungfu35
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My dog that I got this past March has been on one form of heart worm meds since he was a puppy. When I bought him he was given Ivomec and I continued to give him Ivomec after I got him. So this past Tuesday he goes in for his yearly vaccines and comes back positive for heart worms. So we started the heart worm treatment advised by my vet. THey gave him a dose of heart guard and starting next month I have to start giving him Minocycline, 3 100mg pills twice a day. And after that in September he has to get a shot of some other medicine. So even if they are on Ivomec they can still get heart worms just like any other heartworm medicine out there.
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AKA Freshwaterkilla
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