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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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 Elephant hunting
I have to vent a little bit. That doushbag Teddy Roosevelt wannabe that hunts in Africa thinks he is such a great hunter. A guide drives him in a jeep within 500ft of an elephant with 5 black as night trackers/rodeo clowns and shoots a bull and he talks about what a great hunt it is. I am a believer about how smart elephants are. I think this is similar to harpooning a whale. Don't get me wrong I am all for natives doing what they have to do for the preservation of tradition (eskimos with whales and walruses, niqqers and there niqqer animals)but this guy is a fukn joke. At least rough it a little. At night they show him in a bug proof tent writing in his journal smoking a cigar. I bet that guy doesn't even help set the tent up. I would love to see him go out by himself and get trampled to death.
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RootSumn
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Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:55 am Posts: 1126 Location: Hawthorne, Fl
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 Re: Elephant hunting
Yeah, I don't like watching it either, but some of those elephants kill folks, wipe out villages, and crush fields.
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BlueShamu
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Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:13 pm Posts: 5605 Location: D'town, LA
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 Re: Elephant hunting
I'm sure the government and maybe the locals are going to benefit from whatever that guy paid to ground check that elephant. They did say it was a predation hunt because of overpopulation. But, yeah, that just didn't seem right.
They also have some pretty strict hunting regulations over there with regard to using professional hunters, clothes you are allowed to wear, must use local trackers, etc. I still say that guy couldn't hunt his way out of Bass Pro Shops...much less go out and make a successful DIY hunt for squirrels in my back yard.
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pearl river outlaw
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Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:12 am Posts: 1407 Location: Louisville Ms
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 Re: Elephant hunting
Yeah price one of them hunts.... It's 75k to go hunt the big 5. Which I would love to do one day. BUT at the same time I don't want no bunch of help doing it. I want to do it all ON MY OWN!
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lunacris
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Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:31 pm Posts: 3251 Location: Da Parish
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 Re: Elephant hunting
All of those kinda hunts make me sick. Tigers, zebra, giraffe etc. those type of people are bunch of pussies as far as I'm concerned.
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med
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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SCmudder7071
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Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:10 pm Posts: 3024
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 Re: Elephant hunting
Yall are just making a bunch of excuses. The real reason is the price. Believe me, I know. No way I'd ever be able to talk the misses into that trip 
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LB200
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Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:43 pm Posts: 656
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A lot of people have a problem with hunting elephants but they are a serious nuisance and over populated like crazy in many areas. Typically, all of the meat, and I mean all of it, gets taken away by the locals and eaten. They do not let anything go to waste. I have never been but have friends that have made that trip and they were amazed at how fast the locals showed up after the elephant hit the ground! I will probably never make it to Africa because of the cash required but you can bet your rear I would be there if I could afford it!
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med
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:25 am Posts: 6432 Location: the dark side of the moon
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Not me. I don't even remotely care to do that kind of hunting. Kinda like going out and stalking grandpa's barn with better scenery. No thx.
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MALLARDSX2
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Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:34 pm Posts: 978 Location: GA
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 Re: Elephant hunting
But it was cool when Teddy Roosevelt did it.........that's the funny part. He was some k,ind of national hero for it.
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Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:57 pm |
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Swampnuts
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Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:12 pm Posts: 1504 Location: St.Amant,LA
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sthomp
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:46 pm Posts: 164 Location: Alabama
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 Re: Elephant hunting
I've been to Africa twice and I don't really get why people are pussies for hunting over there. As for the elephants you could compare them to nutrias that can easily kill you. They're everywhere, by the end of the second day of my first trip I was tired of seeing them. The hunting isn't as easy as the TV shows make it out to be plus at any given time your probably only 1/2 a mile from a dozen things that want to kill you.
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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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I wouldn't call myself a pussy(a lot of you have and if not sooner or later you will) for me it is more of a compassion for creatures with a higher brain power and an animal with a sense of family. That video of the elephant crying is a real tear jerker. I understand that culling the heard is a must. Also rogue or elephants that just have attitude problems must be killed but don't act like you are a great hunter for driving up on an animal and shooting it just because you got the coin to do it. All I am saying is be a man. Hire a guide if the law states you have to. Then tell the guide that you will do all the tracking. Hike it. Start your own fire. Pitch your own tent. You take shifts staying up at night watching for predators. I take my boat all around the country fishing saltwater. I don't get a guide Ar take a charter because it is so much more satisfying when you figure it out. When I go to places that I can't take my boat i tell the captain to sit down and grab a rod because I am driving, my dad is first mate and my buddies are the gaff and wire men. sometimes I get skunked for choosing to do it this way but the times I do well it makes up for those bad trips. IMO
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wpevey
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Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:25 am Posts: 344 Location: Covington, LA
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I don't doubt that the guy discussed might be a douche, but I wont knock him for going on safari. If you read some of the books from those guys like Roosevelt in the 18-1900's, hunting in Africa was some crazy shit. My dad has a entire library of leather bound books written by numerous early outdoorsmen of that era. They are some wounderful literature, and entertaining adventures.
Now with that said, the method of hunting there is no worse than anyone who deer hunts in Louisiana or MS as far as Im concerned. I don't knock any of you for doing it but I enjoy duck hunting b/c its 5x's the challenge deer hunting will ever be here. I quit deer hunting years ago b/c its boring. It takes zero skill once you learn to identify deer sign and patterns which I learned at 9yo. You sit in a stand (usually over a food source) and wait for one to walk out and shoot it. not a demanding skill set just luck.
Now try and go on a sheep hunt, mountain goat hunt, or prairie antelope hunt, then get back to me on hunting skills. Where you have to glass thousands of miles of terrain and stalk a animal for miles just to get a chance for one shot on one animal. Ive done it, that is fun hunting to me and requires real skill and knowledge of your quarry. In Africa its not finding the game that makes it a challenge to me, its that 80% of the game your after can kill you if you fuck up.
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Trousertrout
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Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:18 pm Posts: 1060 Location: Ohio-The land of few ducks
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^^^ I agree mostly. The sheep hunts IMO are the most challenging. I stopped hunting deer 15 years ago for the same reasons. The books and stories from the late 1800's and early 1900's were badass because that is when men were men. To much luxuries while these guys are hunting. I am sure someone will say well you are hunting out of a boat that is pushed by a motor. This is true but we are able to hunt to a later age in life. Back then those guys were push poling and rowing but they had a life expectancy of 30. I am sure most of us put our rowing hours in when we were growing up. Man I sure wish that the great Tred Barta was healthy and still had his show. That was a smart and incredible sportsmen.
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