It is currently Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:51 am




Reply to topic  [ 48 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
 Gtr prop spinning even in neutral  
Author Message
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
When engine is idling In neutral prop still spins fast. It has gotten worse(faster) spin as time goes on. Only got 81 hours on it.... Is this a sign of something? Is this normal?


Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:36 pm
Profile
MMT Addict

Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am
Posts: 668
Location: Where the mud flats are
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Time to tear into that lower unit

_________________
18x48 extreme with 37 gtr
past boats
stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab
Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab
Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab
07 gtr on 16x54 alweld


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:22 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
How does the lower unit have anything to do with it? When the clutch is up top? Something is rubbing and not disengaging all the way

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:29 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am
Posts: 1352
Location: Genoa AR
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Have you checked belt tension?


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:29 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Yeah she is kinda tight. Not banjo string tight but she isn't loose... My buddy mentioned that is was a little tight when we installed my engine back to the frame last week

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:31 pm
Profile
MMT Addict

Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:25 am
Posts: 668
Location: Where the mud flats are
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
My buddy's did that but his lower unit was leaking is yours?

_________________
18x48 extreme with 37 gtr
past boats
stage 2 37 gtr on 18x48 sportsman fab
Gen 3 36 prodrive on 18x48 sportsman fab
Gen 2 36 prodricr on cc 18x48 sportsman fab
07 gtr on 16x54 alweld


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:33 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
No she isn't leaking

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:35 pm
Profile
MMT F.E.
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:34 pm
Posts: 932
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Ok, so let me explain why this happens. This has to do with the planetary. When you are in neutral, you are free spinning the planetary. Depending on the thickness of the oil you use in there is going to determine how fast the prop spins. Thin hot oil=less drag and slower prop rpm in neutral, thick cold oil=more drag causing the prop to spin faster. If you know how a planetary gearbox works then you should be able to understand this.

If it's getting faster as you put more time in it then your oil is either leaking out the rear seal or you are using thicker oil as of recently.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

_________________
17x54 Extreme W/ GTR-35L Stage 1


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:37 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm
Posts: 5077
Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Just take the little plug out and pump fresh grease into the LU. Every gtr spins a little bit in neutral. And no you don't have to tear down and rebuild your LU

_________________
HOTSAUCE170 wrote:
I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid. :D


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:38 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Yes I understand how planetary gears work and that makes sense. Thanks. Using Castrol 10-w30 same as engine. Is this what yal run?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:44 pm
Profile
MMT F.E.
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:34 pm
Posts: 932
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
I use the same as my engine oil, but once that rear seal starts leaking, I'll start using actual 90w gear oil.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

_________________
17x54 Extreme W/ GTR-35L Stage 1


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:47 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Just checked no oil leaking

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:48 pm
Profile
MMT F.E.
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:34 pm
Posts: 932
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Either way, what you are experiencing is normal, nothing to worry about.

Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk

_________________
17x54 Extreme W/ GTR-35L Stage 1


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:51 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:39 pm
Posts: 6976
Location: West Monroe, LA
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:55 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Thanks I appreciate the settling help

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk


Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:20 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:24 am
Posts: 1958
Location: Bristol, FL
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral

_________________
1754 GTB / 35 GTR


Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:41 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:26 pm
Posts: 3084
Location: Down South
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
x2

_________________
1852 Dfou custom 35gtr


Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:48 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
I have never ran across one that doesn't spin in neutral. NEVER EVER and EVER !!

Don't care what DDM or anyone else says about theirs not spinning. I just know that its the norm for what I've seen ( which is in the hundreds ). And Truthfully with a tie rap and the reverse lever I can post a video of one not turning too! LOL

PD doesn't spin because it has a break built into the clutch when disengaged.

It spins because it still has the friction of the clutch bearings spinning on the PTO shaft. Which is a great thing if you think about it. It tells you your lower unit is free and not binding in the slightest. The Planetary gear is not in operation until you apply pressure to the rotor. Now once you get the planetary moving it then becomes weight in motion and acts like a flywheel.


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:02 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:31 pm
Posts: 3251
Location: Da Parish
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
my buddies has spun from day one

_________________
GatorHide - MB


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:03 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:48 pm
Posts: 2363
Location: Chandler,Indiana
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Hmmmm.....

_________________
I got a shotgun,rifle and a Go Devil Surface Drive a country boy can survive.
35+hp GDSD engine mods by George Merta
18x48 GDSD boat


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:10 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:49 pm
Posts: 445
Location: Southern Illinois
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Mine spun with 3 minutes on the tach and still spins. Not worried about it.

_________________
[color=#80BF00][b]Excel 1860 swv4f4 with GTR35L with stage 1, cam, exhaust, heads


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:14 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:26 pm
Posts: 3084
Location: Down South
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Mine has always spun lil

_________________
1852 Dfou custom 35gtr


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:15 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:31 pm
Posts: 3251
Location: Da Parish
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
it aint gonna kill nobody. it is what it is

_________________
GatorHide - MB


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:19 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:20 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5282
Location: Meraux,La.
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Mine has always spun in neutral but when I change the grease in the shaft log it spins much less.


Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:02 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:21 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
in North Alabama I am the only person I know with a gtr and as I noticed it getting faster after I installed my motor back on the frame I wanted to know. I don't care if it spins but when it idles me around the boat ramp in neutral I get curious


Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:35 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Just apply a small amount of pressure on the reverse handle when you want to come to a complete idle in open water. Doesn't take much at all to get it to stop rotating.


Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:43 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:36 pm
Posts: 498
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:04 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Yeah I know that Bayou boy....


Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:27 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:53 pm
Posts: 5077
Location: The duck Mecca called Ga!
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
:lol: Yeah bitch he knows that...... :lol:

_________________
HOTSAUCE170 wrote:
I've never gone to Seminole for the amenities/luxury the two reasons I go down there are to kill shit and get fucked up with like minded individuals aka OG'S. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are discussed (with no roaches) lake lanier is near Atlanta. If you wanna have an awesome time and maybe stay in a room where children were conceived on one side and someone got stabbed over an 8-ball on the other come on down I got a can of raid. :D


Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:31 am
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:08 am
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:10 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
I think it's funny when someone tries to tell me how to operate my boat when I can steer 35 barges down the Mississippi River. But thanks for the mechanical advice since that's what I originally asked for


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:13 am
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm
Posts: 11166
Location: Cecilia, LA
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Has anyone really seen this bayouboy in person? He knows an awful lot about the inner workings of a Gator Tail? From Venice?? Just curious.

_________________
Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI.
“Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:17 am
Profile WWW
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:21 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:48 pm
Posts: 2363
Location: Chandler,Indiana
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
So does Gatortail actually have a real neutral? Yes or no?

UMRking do you ever work up around Cairo/Hickman area? I have been comm fishing there and I am super impressed with the driving on some of those bends. Lots of horsepower being used there.

_________________
I got a shotgun,rifle and a Go Devil Surface Drive a country boy can survive.
35+hp GDSD engine mods by George Merta
18x48 GDSD boat


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:38 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Thanks Breaux


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:38 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
Yeah Ingram has a fleet in Columbus, KY we go down there to drop and pick up barges... I like coming through Cairo it's always interesting to see the Mississippi and Ohio meet


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:48 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:34 pm
Posts: 172
Location: North Alabama
Post Re: Gtr prop spinning even in neutral
I may have made it sound confusing with my post. But yes it has neutral engaged with a switch kind of like turning your lawn mower blades on and off. If that's what you were asking. Thru the planetary gear reverse system there is a little friction in there causing the propellar to spin slowly. Enough to barely make your boat move.. Fat baby crawl barely


Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:52 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 48 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 210 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: