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Trojan12
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Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm Posts: 116 Location: Alabama
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 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
looking into getting a 25gtr, I would want open floor plan, standard 48' deck and have the drop deck
wanted to see if anyone ran this set up and see what speeds you are getting.
thanks
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
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txmudcutter
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 2307 Location: Nederland, TX (SETX)
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=57400same topic from a few days ago
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Trojan12
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Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm Posts: 116 Location: Alabama
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
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txmudcutter
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 2307 Location: Nederland, TX (SETX)
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
I dont think your gonna find much info on the 16x54 only person I know who had anything close was takem gator. He had a 25 on a 1554 not long after they came out but hes gotten rid of it since then I believe. I would go with the 48" if it were me
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Trojan12
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Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm Posts: 116 Location: Alabama
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
thanks for the information!
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Trojan12
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Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm Posts: 116 Location: Alabama
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
i dont want/ need alot of boat. currently have a 2010 1754 grizzly w/ 40 merc and a 2014 1548 w 18hp copperhead... just want to sell both of those rigs and get a .125 gage mud boat with a 23-25hp sd.. something small enough i can get into skinny backwater but big enough i can bass fish from.. all i need is a front deck because if i fish with someone they can stand on a cooler in the back or something.. i fish alone most of the time. as far as hunting i usually hunt 2 people but i think with the 16' boat i could take a 3rd and it wouldnt be much of a problem. we hunt light gear and usually just 12-20 decoys. i love my 1548 but it is a weldbilt crawdad so its not a true mud hull and doesnt have much of a front deck. tracker grizzly is nice but after running the 15' boat i sure like the ease of how lite it is..
figured this may be the size boat that would fit my wants/ needs
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JIMMY W
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
The 54 will run better
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cajun1085
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Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 2:57 pm Posts: 183 Location: Silver Spring, MD
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
You are not going to like your speeds with 3 people. If you are not running far it is ok. I mostly hunt alone or with my wife (125lbs) which is ideal for the 25hp.
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txmudcutter
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Trojan12
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Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm Posts: 116 Location: Alabama
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
My 1548 weldbilt with 18hp will run a steady 16 with 3 people... I was surprised how well it did, that's 3 good soze boys 210,225,and 270 Very lite gear (guns, gun bags, and 12 decoys) plus small battery, 3 gal of gas, and misc boat gear.
This is in deep water*
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Trojan12
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
I know small boats with a small block aren't built for speed but as long as I can hunt 3 people and get up over 20mph I'll be satisfied
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Trojan12
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Trojan12
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JLACOUR
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
Jimmy will probably recommend the 48 then, if that's what GT said!!
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usfgeology
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Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:37 pm Posts: 74 Location: Tampa, FL
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
I have a 1554 extreme pushed by the 25. It will push 2 and a moderate hunt load on plane 20-22. 3 people no hunt load - same. 4 people or 3 and a load - your plowing. I love mine though and primarily hunt by myself and booze cruise with the wife.
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cajun1085
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
I agree with the plowing. The first day I ever ran my boat I had 3 people in and nothing else. We did 18mph deep water and 22-23 shallow.
I ran 3 people(210,180,300), boat blind, a dozen goose decoys, small ice chest, 9 gal of fuel. We did 12-13mph plowing. I guess not all 25hp are the same...
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Trojan12
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
I was told a 1648 push by the 25gtr should do 20mph all day with 3 people.
I don't see used rigs like this for sale as often as I do bigger 1748 or 1754 w/35gtr
I wonder why that is? Are people with the smaller gtr's happier with their set up or do most people just get the larger rig
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
The bigger rigs are more popular. That's why you see so many. Probably 80% or more bigger rigs with 35s as opposed to 20% or less with 25s.
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Trojan12
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Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:15 pm Posts: 116 Location: Alabama
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
Gotcha, I'm in central Alabama and their aren't many people that run surface drives. I've owned one for about 6 months am very impressed. They must be gaining popularity because I've never seen one on the lake my parents live on in the past 14 years. I've sinve seen 2 different rigs in the past few months.
This may be a dumb question but currently I have an 18hp copperhead. How much louder is a 35? I think that this motor is fairly quiet for an air cooled motor. I ask this because I've seen videos with guys driving 35hp motors and wearing ear plugs or ear phones
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msm8281
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Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:50 pm Posts: 9673 Location: New Iberia, La.
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
If you keep it stock it's not that bad. Just imagine riding on a big mower with the blade disengaged
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cb5331
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Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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Trojan12
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instagator911
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Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:36 pm Posts: 1127 Location: Behind the hood next 2 da bright light! SETX
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The 54 is not the way 2 go for sure.
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JIMMY W
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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JIMMY W
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 Re: 1648 vs 1654 gator tail
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