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bullsprig
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:16 pm Posts: 301 Location: East Texas
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 Belt Drive
I looked through some old threads but didnt see anything with direct refernce.
Of the members who own motors that are belt driven, how many problems have you had with breaking or slipping? Im sure this has been discussed somewhere, but I couldn't find the thread.
Also, how difficult is it to change out the belt on these motors if you do have problems while on the water? Wouldn't you have to take the lower unit off, so would that rule out an on the water repair?
I've been running a longtail for a while now and love it's reliablilty but am close to making the change to a short shaft. Any help would be much appreciated, even if you are pointing me in the direction of a previous discussion. Thanks.
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:37 am |
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MaXXis85
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: Belt Drive
Ive run my boat south of Franklin in those marshes and have hit many roots and stumps under the mud and belive me it sounds horrible. Just keep on driving and forget about it. It takes alot to break those belts, Unless you get a fluke one. It happens too.
I personally never changed a belt so the fastest quickest way IDK yet, But I could figure it out. If you are mechanically inclined you gonna be fine. There are manuals on all the MM manufactures sites so you can check those out to give you ideas of maintenance and repairs.
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:43 am |
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dog walker
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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I broke a belt when my motor had 50 hours on it. I had just checked it out for slack and it was good and tight with no signs of wear or anything. I hit something at WOT and that was all she wrote. It was a fluke, since then I've hit many more things much harder with no issues. It does sound bad sometimes but its not an issue and I have put over 300 more hours on it. Slipping has never been a problem for me. I did have to shim the motor after about 150-200 hours to pull some slack out of the belt but it never slipped at anytime. You can change the belt in the field but not in 6' of water. If you are in an area with a hard bottom it would be a snap, if not I would try to get it on the bank to work on it. You will have to pull the lower unit but thats not really hard at all. The hard part is getting the belt back over the bottom pulley, but once you learn the trick to that its not bad at all. This is very easy to do in the driveway  .
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:04 pm |
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LA Mudder
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Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:18 pm Posts: 422 Location: Belle Chasse, LA
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Im reasonably sure that these belts are rated for 100 horsepower and i have never had any belt issues nor have i ever heard of anyone around here having one slip or break.
_________________ 18x58 w/healthy GTR 35 "A good friend will bail you out of jail but a true friend will be sitting by you saying damn that was fun"
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:58 pm |
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Tenpoint
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:22 pm Posts: 2029 Location: Patterson LA
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My GTR only has 8 hrs on it so I hope I dont break one soon. My buddy has over 300 hrs on his and broke a belt somewhere around the 250 hr range.
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:06 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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i changed out a belt on a gdsd halfdrunk in freezing temps. not hard at all. took longer to figure out the tension measuring tool than the change the belt.
yea, all mudmotors can break, but they are getting better and better.
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:17 pm |
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dog walker
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:27 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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_________________ 17x48 extreme stage 2 GTR 20X60 DUAL RIG BOWFISHING ADDITION http://www.scalesandtailsbowfishing.com
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:28 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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we spent a hr trying to figure out the tension tool, then i just gave it 3/16" or so deflection and bam, we rolled out!!! like u said, next time would be done in a snap. that was like 3 yrs ago and it's still rollin today. 
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:42 pm |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:34 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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Broke one belt at 14 hrs, said phuck that I'll take my chances with a different design and so far so good. 
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:02 pm |
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deltaduckmaster
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:07 pm Posts: 16608
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:01 pm |
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craig
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Belt Drive
Everytime I drop a nut or bolt it's one made of stainless.
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:41 pm |
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bayouboy
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:47 pm |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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Lol. I'll try that next time. 
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:39 pm |
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OwenDickeson
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Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:45 pm Posts: 9869
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:44 pm |
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dog walker
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5282 Location: Meraux,La.
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:07 am |
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quackconsumer
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:54 pm Posts: 5582
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At dis time I will insert foot in mouth. 
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:33 am |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Belt Drive
Ran 211 hours on my original belt- hit stuff so hard I bent the trim bracket, took a chunk out of a prop, and once I even cracked a prop blade.
I've seen a belt changed out on the bank before.
Some of the new belts out are Kevlar- if you keep it tensioned its made to last.
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:12 pm |
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indybill
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm Posts: 581 Location: HOUSTON
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Now that is a whacked prop.
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:47 pm |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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Gary, what did you hit?
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:49 pm |
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stanco
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:06 am Posts: 260
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I broke a belt back in 07, hit some structure and also took a small (maybe 1/8") chunk out of my prop. This was with the old black colored pure rubber belts. MB started using Kevlar/Rubber belts rated at 140 hp around 06/07, and I put one on and it has been fine since with that motor and my new one.
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:53 pm |
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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_________________ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:08 pm |
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bullsprig
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:16 pm Posts: 301 Location: East Texas
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 Re: Belt Drive
Thanks for the help.
It sounds like the belts are built really tough but every once in a while they can snap at low hours. I appreciate all of the responses.
_________________ 36 PD 1852 Brother Breaux
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