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cranschau
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Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:31 pm Posts: 92
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 Need opinion on a first mud boat....
Need some help on what you guys think of this...
Motor: Gator tail 35hp Boat: Prodigy 1660 or 1860 - hunt deck - gun box - couple other accessories but nothing too big.
I will mainly run a shallow river and some marshes. Hunting, fishing,and trapping.
What setup do you think will treat me best?
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brycecheramie
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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duck_watcher12
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Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:18 pm Posts: 196
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 Re: Need opinion on a first mud boat....
Depends on what kind of speeds you want, what the restrictions are, the number of passengers/load you'll be carrying, and the common factors like that
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:11 pm |
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cranschau
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:29 pm |
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cranschau
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Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:31 pm Posts: 92
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:33 pm |
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Hernaja1
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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 Re: Need opinion on a first mud boat....
18' 60 " all day
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brycecheramie
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Pulpwood
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Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:23 pm Posts: 215
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 Re: Need opinion on a first mud boat....
That's awfully wide. Probably need two on a 60" hull. I've got an 1850 and it's no speed demon.
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brycecheramie
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Bug
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Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:28 am Posts: 1068 Location: Tallahassee, Fl
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18-60
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Chadb1010
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Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:26 pm Posts: 221 Location: SETX
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 Re: Need opinion on a first mud boat....
cranschau I got a whole rig forsale if your intereste pm me
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Quack N Stack
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Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm Posts: 2225 Location: Baytown, Tejas
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flint87
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Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:21 pm Posts: 3214
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Quack N Stack
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Hernaja1
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TPerkins
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Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm Posts: 1793 Location: Clear Lake, Tx
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Trinity is over 80k
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TPerkins
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Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:59 pm Posts: 1793 Location: Clear Lake, Tx
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I think 1860 is a solid setup. I have a 1854 and it's a great all around setup but the mph you loose empty is worth the mph you retain loaded.
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flint87
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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brycecheramie
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Mallards Only
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:23 pm Posts: 404 Location: Idaho
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I have owned 2 48" boats and 1 52" boat. I will NEVER own a 48 again. Didn't realize how much I hate them til now.  My next boat will be 52" minimum and likely more like 54. It's amazing what a difference 4-6" makes.
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cranschau
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Mallards Only
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:23 pm Posts: 404 Location: Idaho
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It's amazing what 4" of beam makes. Lots more room, more stability when hunting from it, better draft, and better handling(although some of that is likely due to bottom and chine config). Back end squats less with weight in the back(I run battery and fuel in the back but may have to move both up front if I don't sell my current rig first)
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jakehawk9
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Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:06 pm Posts: 1447 Location: South central, ks
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 Re: Need opinion on a first mud boat....
I second what all these guys are saying about the 18x60. I have a 1648 which at first I thought was plenty big. But when u start throwing gear in there it shrinks fast. I won't buy another for a long time just because I can't really justify it. My 1648 works, there's just no luxury of extra room
It's simple. get a mud motor. shoot ducks in the face.
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Gunshinestate407
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Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:58 pm Posts: 216 Location: Orlando
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 Re: Need opinion on a first mud boat....
I hunt outta my boat 90% of the time and my 16x48 is hard enough to hide. For my application I wouldn't go bigger but for riding to camp or the blind I'd definitely go bigger.
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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I like my 16x48 it works well but I only like hunting with 1 other person in the boat and for that my boat is good and also depending on who builds the boat the top rail width can vary I know the prodigy is wider than my boat they flare more and something I didn't account for so look consider that too
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Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:46 pm |
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cranschau
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Do any of you guys who hunt out of your boat struggle to hide it from the ducks?
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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I don't have any issues with mine I just make sure that I have the proper blind material for where I am hunting. I prefer to hunt wading because I just prefer it but with the flooding this year we have way to much water so I've had to build a blind
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Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:26 pm |
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Mallards Only
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:23 pm Posts: 404 Location: Idaho
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You have to consider what type of areas/habitat you're gonna be hunting. My first 1648 was a semi-v and I was hunting mostly shallow marsh/tules. The boat was great for slicing into a tule patch and hiding but it sucked for shallow water. It had an outboard on it as that was before MM's. Then I went to an 1852 with a PD. Flat bottom, flat rake. It sucked for hiding in tules and most other things(willows, weeds, etc) because it tended to mow them down in front of me rather than slide through them. I don't think it was the size of the boat that was the problem though as I had pretty good blinds on both of them. I went back to a 1648 with an outboard because my hunting area changed from shallow marsh to flooded river. I hate the 1648. It's more "unstable," even with just two guys. It tends to lean and rock more when hunting from the boat. I can't say it's any easier to hide but I'm not sliding it into tules either. If you're gonna be sliding into tule patches, the 1648 might be just fine for you as the tules will stabilize the boat as a shooting platform. Then, it just becomes a "space" issue which I also now prefer a larger boat for.
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Gunshinestate407
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Ricerunner
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Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 pm Posts: 887 Location: Summerville, SC
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 Need opinion on a first mud boat....
I have a flat bow and yes it does flatten what's in front but...as long as I make sure there is plenty of whatever around me it's not a problem i hunt both flooded timber rivers swamps tidal marsh open lakes everywhere just about I hunt in and out of the boat and I have no issues with stability even with 3 guys jumping up and down and I will not go back to an outboard rig but I would however by a ribbed boat and put a mm on it as well as keep the boat I have now . The ribbed would be a fishing only boat and most likely a 25 GT on a 15' boat. The mm can do everything an outboard can but an outboard cannot do what a mm can
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Mallards Only
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Ricerunner
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brickgw
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Mallards Only
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Maybe. But coming back to the ramp after the hunt fully loaded and into a stiff upstream current @ <10 mph sucks. Totally depends on your application. If I was strictly hunting shallow water marshes with muddy bottoms and lots of veggies it'd be a no-brainer. But there is no perfect all-around boat.
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Ricerunner
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Quack N Stack
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Hernaja1
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Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:29 am Posts: 2465 Location: Sulphur , La
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I hid my 18/56 pretty well . Just angles my blind in nice and the blind say low to keep it low profile. I used as much natural vegetation as I could.
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Ricerunner
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I also don't have an issue with stashing the boat 100 yards or more away from where I'm set up
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kirk
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