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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
i have a 2008 MB 6000 W/ iron mtn heads, only has 31 hrs on it. runs like $h!t. i can only run about 1/4 throttle before it dies out, i did a suposed upgrade with the irn mtn heads from pro flos at about 25 hrs. it was only running about 22 mph on a 1754 GT with the PF heads so i was talked in to the irn mtn heads for better performance. runs Even worse now, cant even get 10 mph out of it. its been to the shop many times and still has not been fixed, heads constently get stuck and every time there is any pressure(water) on the prop it bogs out and dies. constantly back fires and sounds like $h!t too. i use premium gas and have checked the tank for falt and bad gas, idle's at 1150 rpm and dies out at 2500-3500 rps. any one got any tips/idea's that could help out. feels like i got a lemon. im tired of dumping $ into it and its not being fixed.
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grrifles
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:10 pm Posts: 72
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Check the rev limiter
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:19 pm |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
i just installed a brand new one, so i dont think that its the problem. but the new one makes a ticking sound, is that normal?
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:07 pm |
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coondik
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
possible causes:
bad cam or cam timing misaligned sheared or broken timing key incorrect timing key bad coil / plug wire bent push rod(s) incorrect valve lash settings rev box wired wrong or not grounded properly leaking intake / gaskets or carb boot carbs not in sync
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:18 pm |
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JIMMY W
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:02 pm Posts: 4534 Location: South Louisiana
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Bring it to coondik!
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indybill
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm Posts: 581 Location: HOUSTON
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
HOOK where do you live???
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bjg
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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:34 pm Posts: 882 Location: Ahead of you, with a rubber band turning my prop!!
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
_________________ BUCK OFAMA
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
100 miles north of houston, madisonville tx
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
hey coondik, whats the best place to get this thing looked at, and what would it cost me to fix it, and give me you opnion on this setup.
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:59 pm |
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deadbird8
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
You bought that motor from H&W and they sent you to the coast to get it worked on last year when it was running like crap? Sounds like you never get that fixed and then added other heads on it.
The IM heads are nice and produce a lot of power. See the list that coondik posted but you don't have timing keys in yours.
You may try the MB forum for more specific help.
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:14 pm |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
the guy from the coast "fixed/replaced" the bent push rod that he said was causing me the problems and added the IM heads at the same time, he dry tested at his shop but when i put it in the water this $h!t happened, i contacted MB and talked to their guru and he talked to a local mechanic and walked hime through a complete rebuild, replaced a Cracked piston rod, oil pump, rev limiter, rings ect... still not worth a damn.
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:28 pm |
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drake1
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:57 am Posts: 659
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Your only a 100 miles from EVT. Bring it by and we will see if we can help you out.
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:48 am |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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_________________ JReese
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grrifles
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:10 pm Posts: 72
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
I have had rev limeters go out in less then an hour. Cut or unplug the green wire and she how it does.
Chris
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:58 am |
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craig
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:53 pm Posts: 7515 Location: Chauvin
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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T-mac
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:53 pm Posts: 605
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
That's my suggestion too....take it to EVT in Crosby...your best/closest bet-
BTW...who was the person that said you needed Iron Mountain heads to fix your problem?? First thing I'd do is go and take the hundreds of $$$ they ripped you on out of their azz. You got rooked~
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:12 am |
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dpd
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Joined: Thu May 07, 2009 10:25 am Posts: 714 Location: Thibodaux, LA
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indybill
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm Posts: 581 Location: HOUSTON
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Hook,
Did coastal backwater tell you that you needed iron mountain heads or did they suggest that you add those because they were going into the stock heads anyway? Why did you use them when you bought the motor somewhere else? Agree that Silk at EVT would be a good place to at least call. I have had very good dealings with him. This all seems confusing to me.
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:30 am |
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T-mac
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:53 pm Posts: 605
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
He said he already had proflow heads and someone suggested he needed Iron Mountains for better performance.
HOw were you talked into it?? and who did??
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:41 pm |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
reason: no labor charge and parts at cost. b/c id been back twice before they figured out that the rod was bent.
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deadbird8
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Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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i agree. now that i think about i kinda feel like a guinea pig.
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:40 am |
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all8up
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Joined: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:56 am Posts: 54 Location: H8terville
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:56 pm |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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_________________ JReese
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chops3131
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:34 pm Posts: 1182 Location: Beaumont TX
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chops3131
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:34 pm Posts: 1182 Location: Beaumont TX
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We are a cretified mudbuddy performance center if you need any help feel free to call us and visit the site
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Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:54 pm |
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indybill
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm Posts: 581 Location: HOUSTON
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Welcome aboard. Sorry for the Jack.
_________________ My Chessie is the Queen of the Marsh!!!!
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who were willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson-1802
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caddobrook
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Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 881
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WES
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Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:54 am Posts: 282
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
it sounds simple but if theres a rev liniter on there i bet thats it (like some have said), take it off they get wet and turn to junk.
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Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:13 am |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
got my ride back from Extreme v twins today.... its fixed better than when it came from the factory. Robert and mike know there stuff. if you having problems or need help call them.
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brlcla
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Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:11 pm Posts: 955 Location: Lake Charles, LA
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another satisfied EVT customer
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marshmaster
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Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:04 pm Posts: 137
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
what was the culprit??? Somthing simple?? Good to here you got it back up and going
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Sat May 22, 2010 7:46 pm |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
there was all kinds of crazyness going....
in short a MB 6000 is not a easy set up to maintain....
now we have a EVT custom exaust with a larger single carb with iron mtn heads on a MB 6000 pushing a GT 17x54 huntdeck
we ran to day 31 mph at 4300 rpm
im happy
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
ill let EVT explain all the problems
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Sat May 22, 2010 8:02 pm |
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marshmaster
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Kind of exaust did you have before you put the evt exaust on?
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Sat May 22, 2010 8:07 pm |
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
MB duel stainless
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marshmaster
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Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:04 pm Posts: 137
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Sent you a pm about your pipes
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Sat May 22, 2010 8:19 pm |
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indybill
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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:38 pm Posts: 581 Location: HOUSTON
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
Hook, Good for you. 31 mph is great. Glad you are back up. 
_________________ My Chessie is the Queen of the Marsh!!!!
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who were willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson-1802
"When the Government fears the people that is liberty When the people fear the government that is tyranny"- Thomas Jefferson
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fish_hook128
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Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas
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 Re: Mud Buddy 6000 hd + iron mtn heads
thanks man me to its been a solid year since its ran right
JR
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