cutt down id believe the speeds i seen all the videos of them running across the marsh and i think they got that motor running about perfect with the boat its on

no, im pretty sure i know what the hell im talkin about because i didnt start runnin a mm yesterday. all i did was voice my opinion. isnt that what this whole site is about anyway?

ha, i aint chewin no ones ass, i just sayin!

what makes these motors so fast?

Damn Cutt ain't seen a comment from you on here in forever.

25.7mph

and what is that cmelvin? all i did was state my opinion, if i recall correctly, there are pages upon pages of guys arguing about whos motor is better,including guys that have been on here waaay longer than me.

seriously dude.....quit fukin this mans thread! go to the pm box with that stupid shit.

umm my original statements were purely related to the thread thank you

yea so go read thoses pages and learn something before you come on here callin BS to someone who has forgotten more bout these rigs than you can ever soak up in that watermelon head of yours.....

I don't know what these guys that are getting these speeds do, but my friend has a 10hp on a 14 jon and it runs about 20 with one person and 10 with two people. Thy also don't go through lillies worth chit and tear the seals up quick.

Maybe the 12 is a big difference though.

Yea it could be the boat. The motors are fun to drive bc there so small they feel like a toy, but I guess you can't expect them to go through everyhing a 35hp is going to go through......…have you had problems with seal in front of the prop, friend has gone through 3 in a month?

These little motors are not meant to compete with the larger motors, they will take alot of punishment, but they are not going to take being bounched off every stump and log in the pond. They have a specific niche they fill, lightweight and powerful for small boats with modest loads. They will get you into the HP restricted areas at speed and the total rigs are light enough that you don't have to blast your way out of the thick stuff, the boats will push out pretty easy.

These little motors are no different then the larger ones, the motor is one part of the performance formula, the boat is the other part. Just like with the bigger surface drives, a boat that draft less and has the right rake angle and surface are to plane quickly without pushing a wall of water in front of the boat is the key.

As for the seals, we have had no issues so far, but IMHO that is because we grease after every use and we try not to run the motor exessively out of the water. Just like a longtail, the seals need grease inside and water outside to keep them cool. As with longtails, run the motor excessively out of the water will heat up the seals and destroy them. I would think your have the same issues with these little motors. Just my thoughts on that issue.

PW

Have had my 6.5hp since August. Ran in mud, lillies, twisted lilly pads around the shaft, hit stumps, ran it out of water for short periods. Never any seal problems. But as Muddoctor said, I grease mine after every use.
I'd contact Gil and see what is up.

Just an update, the speeds we quoted are holding up in just about all conditions. Cutt Down ran the 1236 on a small river in TN beginning of the month, 26.4 down stream, 21.5 upstream, averaged 23-24 mph with two men. This is a shallow river, so speeds are a little faster then you would see in deeper water.

In our 1540 .100 jon we ran 23 with one man, 19-20 with two, 18.7 with three men, this is a 310 lbs hull.

In our 1636 Prowler we are getting 23 one man, 20 two men and 18 mph with three men.

This boat and motor combo is really working well. I have to hand it to Gil and Betsy, they have these little motors pushing really well and our boats that are build twice to three times heavier then the .070 and .060 car toppers are running the same loaded speeds as the lighter boats.

PW

Have you tried it with 2 guys,Dog,Popup blind and all the other hunting equipment?

We have run the smaller boats rigged out with all gear and extra gas etc. The 1236 is still running 19-20 mph. In the longer boats we have run with our layout cover and gear included. Only a mile or two slower then the stated speeds. In general, what we are running with three men alone should be right where you will run with two, dog, gear, blinds, etc.

The 1540 still ran 15 mph with four men in it (it is only rated for three with gear) so we are pretty sure our numbers will be right on with gear and extras.

PW

ok boys your throwing wild punches some of those were below the belt , lets try to keep the gloves up and have a clean fight... ya ya ya ya.

Great numbers man. Don't know about you, but I get a real kick out of listening to everyone say this is bs. If anyone down around florida wants to man up and quit just calling bs and come actually see what it does shoot me a pm. Sorry not trying to derail your thread, but I guess if you don't have a 35 or bigger your not supposed to run over 10mph!

Anybody ran a 12hp on a car topper 12 or 14 jon boat? These are great speeds with some heavier duty hulls and I was wondering if a lighter boat would/could get even better performance...anybody? Thanks!