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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 GTR23 drive disassembly help!
As many of you know, I picked up a new performance cam from GT last week. Today did some preliminary installation planing. I remove the clutch cover to discover the disassembly of the drive belt, clutch and reverse is not intuitive at all. If someone would be so kind as to explain the process I'd appreciate it.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Prolly not many know how to?
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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Team Camo
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Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:49 pm Posts: 8536 Location: Bridge City, TX
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
The following statement kinda goes along with Keith's cam install post. If ya don't know how to get to the 1st step in the directions, ya probably shouldn't be trying to do the mods by yourself. In other words, if ya can't even get the belt drive off, do ya honestly believe ya can install a cam on ya own? 
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cb5331
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Got to learn somehow camo... It's not that hard once you get into it, just take your time and make sure you put everything back the way it came off.
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Woodiebuster
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
The best way to learn how to fix somethin is to fuk it up first.
Your not rebuildin an auto transmission, its a briggs and stratton on a rubber band.
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dguidry
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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:20 pm Posts: 11166 Location: Cecilia, LA
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
The crankcase/cam part looks easy. Not sure how to disasemble the clutch/reverse from the crankshaft. There is a bolt at the very end. Do I start with that. I'll post pics tomorrow for reference.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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garrettpearce
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Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 1436 Location: down da bayou
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
use a impact the bolt will come right out. slide the brake rotor off and theres 6 allen bolts in there, pull the shaft out its about 4 inches long and keyed. then your going to have to pry the pully and clutch off in one piece. correct me if wrong.
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garrettpearce
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
also, pull the belt off while pulling the clutch off and put it on in the installation process to avoid taking the lower drive system out.
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Thanks so much. I have a puller I used to pull off the fly wheel.
So I unscew the bolt then the reverse disc and its attachments will slide off. What will remain is the belt gear and clutch and I pull that off the crankshaft with the puller. It seems I should first release tension on the belt by loosening the engine from the frame first. Yes or no?
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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garrettpearce
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
yes. and that flywheel puller wont work use to pry bars and take your time.
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Prybars and patience do not go together well with me. Should be interesting.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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garrettpearce
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
they will come to instinctively after 200 dollar clutch
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Thank you Garret.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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garrettpearce
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
no prob. it wasnt long ago i was on here asking the same thing.
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craig
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Here's photo of drive assemble for my GTR23
Drive Assembly 3.jpg
Walk me through dis-assembly, please. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
bump: I added photo
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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quackconsumer
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Lefty....Loosey Righty...Tighty
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
I think I've got enough info to give this a try. But if anyone wants to volunteer more that would be good, too.
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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saveontaxes
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
you need a license to practice law? they should make people have one to buy tools 
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cb5331
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THE TANK
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Bring it to GatorTail before you F it all up! Hoyt will fix you up.......
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craig
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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muddawgchuck
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THE TANK
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dguidry
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Some of y'all just don't get it. Life is the journey. I build my own boats so what do you expect of me. I spent many years educating myself, making sacrifices early on so I could reap benefits today. So while some of you forkers were getting drunk and not doing your homework my arse was in study mode. So I can do stuff like build my own boats, produce and record artists, and educate my children in the finest schools, and most of all be happy, without worry. Just sayin...
_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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POKER1
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_________________ 18x48 Charles Leonard / 36PD
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deltaduckmaster
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I hope you are better at all the rest of the things you speak of cause i seen your boat!! 
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Tenpoint
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craig
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_________________ 1750 GatorTail Extreme/Stage 3 37 GTR HD Procrastination is a lot like masturbation. Sure it sounds great at the time but, in the end your only f--k--g yourself.
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dguidry
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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garrettpearce
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
d guidry not trying to be a smart ars but if you cant do the task with the drections we gave you, you should bring it to someone.
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kibb
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The fact that some of us forkers were too busy getting drunk and not studying doesn't make you any smarter. And you're asking us dumbforks for help. That's a statement not a question so you need not reply.
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dguidry
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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deltaduckmaster
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dguidry
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_________________ Formerly:1648 Homemade Cypress Crawfish Skiff GTR23 Performance Cam and Heads; 17x46 Gator Tail with 35GTR and Hoyt's cam;s Currently: 17x48 Gator Tail with XD40 EFI. “Wisdom is not just expertise. It is knowing how much of various areas of expertise you need to know in order to make the decisions that the world needs and that you want to do,” Columbia University President Lee Bollinger.
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saveontaxes
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
short fictional story. If someone is on here all hours of the day, and while he/she was at there desk with multiple monitors, It seems as high and mighty as they think they are, they are either on a break all the time, clocked off the case, or billing some poor drunk hundreds of dollars an hour while they spew there BS about how they worked sooo much harder than the rest of us poor drunk stupid saps. In my opinon, reached from posts, and the time they make these posts, it would be a reasonable assumption that the above could be happening. This is just a fictional account of events not to resemble any real person living or dead just a story not to be confused with reality 
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retired and broke
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 Re: GTR23 drive disassembly help!
Since I was one of those who got drunk and didn't study, I can tell you who we did it. First you take your trailer and hook it to your vehicle and then take a chain and wrap it around the drive assembly and use your other vehicle to pull it off. A 25 foot chain with a lot of slack and just hit the gas on the vehicle that has the chain to it should do the job.
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DeuceChunker
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