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Who makes pistons for a briggs 35?

Other than Briggs.



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Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:24 am
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Arias makes the forged flat top pistons that Performance V-Twin sales. I don't believe you can buy these direct from Arias. Probably have to contact Performance V-Twin or possibly a BPS Dealer. These pistons have a raised compression height and require the longer Eagle rods.

I run a set in my motor and I've had several PM's inquiring info. regarding them so here it is.

Arias- Phone # 310-532-9737
Part # 401116
Recommended piston to cylinder clr. .0035
Piston O.D. 3.3625
Stock Bore I.D. 3.366
Wrist pin O.D. .827 (21mm)
Wrist pin clr. .0007


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Je Piston will make you a piston. You just have to buy four pistons and they will do what ever you what on compression and gas porting the pistons


Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:36 pm
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Cheaper to buy je pistons from evt. If arias raised the compression height then you should only need stock length rods.


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Wait -- no piston ever REQUIRES a longer rod that I know of


Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:51 pm
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Only time you will need a longer rod is when you raise the wrist pin to bring the piston deck down but move the piston up further in the hole.


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OK --- so that makes sense


But what dosent make sense is WHY you would move to wrist pin up and put a longer rod --- wouldnt the piston still be in the same place?


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ive been told that longer rods make more torque on car motors think it would be the same on these


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u can build a sb chevy w short or long rods same stroke


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All you change is the compression ratio with rod length.


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different pistons for each compression stays the same


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Compression height is the distance between the center line of the wrist pin bore to the top of the piston. I don't remember the exact length because it was over a year ago when I measured my Eagle rods, but I'm thinking they were .120 longer than stock B&S rods. The Arias pistons have a compression height designed for the longer rod. If you ran a stock rod with these Arias pistons, the piston would be down in the cylinder at TDC. This would hurt your compression ratio.

A longer rod dwells at TDC for a longer period. The theory is a longer cleaner burn. A lot of old timers started running 6" rods in 350 small block chevy's instead of the stock length 5.7" rod. It's still popular today. The key is to have a piston designed for the longer rod. Otherwise you would have .300 of piston sticking out of the cylinder at TDC.

Compression height is : (Stroke divided by 2) (plus rod length) (minus deck height)

Example : (3.480 divided by 2)= 1.740 (1.740 plus 5.700)= 7.440 (7.440 minus 9.000)= 1.560

A 350 small block chevy with a stock length 5.700 rod has a compression height of 1.560.

Most engine builders, building engines with power adders (Nitrous, Turbo and/or Super chargers) will run a shorter rod and/or less stroke. This allows for a larger compression height and gives the piston manufacture more material between the wrist pin to the top of the piston for thicker/stronger ring lands.

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you phags need to focus on building a better base...
the rest will follow.

btw: poo poo duck, u mite wanna reconsider dem push rods!


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So if I'm understanding it right the wrist pin will be higher just not .120?


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What about where to find after market/over size rings ? I need a set.


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That is why a 31hp crank with 3.5" pistons is a monster. Short stroke and long rod. That motor will spin 5600 plus. My gen has same stroke but a 1" shorter rod, makes gobs of power to 4700 but can't get over that hump.


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Preston I was sitting here scratching my head wandering the same thing, But once I re-read it and looked at the Dwg 50hptiller put up, I got it.

After all that I can say I learned somerhing new. Longer rods are not always for booting compression.

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Well all I got to say is Im glad I asked that. I learned a lot and now will be spending MORE money when I do decide to build my engine LOL


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been a long tiem since i lernt somthing on MMT!

bout time we had a good post!

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Comparison Pics:

Stock vs Shaved BPS Pistons:


C-rod comparison angle and length- BPS .120 over vs Stock:

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Good thread, Subscribed


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Ditto


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