It is currently Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:58 am




Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
 starting issues 
Author Message
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:56 pm
Posts: 88
Post starting issues
36pd non cdi with a single mikuni and mm muffler

The motor is starting to be hard to start. I have to hold down the key for a long time and it will cough a couple times and shoot a mist of gas out of the carb which sometimes ignites causing a backfire.

It will start but takes a while.

Any ideas on the issue?


Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:41 pm
Profile
MMT F.E.
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:35 pm
Posts: 935
Location: South LA
Post Re: starting issues
Is the starter still turning it fast enough or has it gotten slower?


Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:35 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:09 pm
Posts: 4232
Location: Cypress, TX
Post Re: starting issues
It may be your coils! Sounds like what i went through. One minute it would start right up. The next i had backfire out carb and muffler and it wouldn't turn over. New set of coils and it starts first turn.


Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:38 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm
Posts: 3958
Location: Centerville, La
Post Re: starting issues
check the valves

_________________
I gave up mud motors


Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:58 pm
Profile
MMT Super Elite Member

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm
Posts: 16915
Location: Rowlett, TX
Post Re: starting issues


Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:59 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:18 pm
Posts: 276
Location: East Texas
Post Re: starting issues
Sounds like a rev limiter to me.... Happened to mine when it got drenched. Disconnect it and see if it helps....

_________________
1748 prodrive 36 fpr w/ some bolt ons...


Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:02 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm
Posts: 3833
Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
Post Re: starting issues
Agree on checking the valve lash, spitting back through the intake sounds like they aren't opening at the right times.

Also check battery and connections for good connection- seen them crank for minutes and not start if its not cranking just fast enough.

_________________
Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that


Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:50 am
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:56 pm
Posts: 88
Post starting issues
Checked the valve lash and all seemed good...right at.005.

Rev limiter is disconnected.

Starter spins fast.


I guess I can go back one more time and check the valve lash to be 100% positive. What could cause that mist of gas to be coming out the carb?


Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:57 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 3986
Location: Pville, La
Post starting issues
Could it be a plug wire grounding somewhere or bad coil? Sounds similar to what mine did when my plug wires were grounding out


Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:19 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm
Posts: 3833
Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
Post Re: starting issues

_________________
Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that


Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:51 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:30 pm
Posts: 1928
Post Re: starting issues
Would low oil pressure have this effect. Maybe loading up cuz its not firing. Then backfiring? Idk just a thought.but I guess that may be a problem more after its warmed up?

_________________
Dead Fowl Custom 1954hd with a GTR


Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:06 am
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm
Posts: 3833
Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
Post Re: starting issues

_________________
Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that


Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:13 pm
Profile
MMT Elite Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm
Posts: 5376
Location: Venice, La
Post Re: starting issues
How does it run once it fires up?


Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:28 pm
Profile
MMT Pro Member

Joined: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:56 pm
Posts: 88
Post Re: starting issues
It runs great once its up and running. It dies a lot at idle though.

We hauled six guys and gear all hunting season and it did great on plane.

I had this issue before but it was because the valve lash was way out. I fixed that and it ran perfect for about 6 months. I will run a leak down test but I really hope that it comes out ok.

What wire do i need to pull for the oil sensor just so I can rule it out?


Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:32 pm
Profile
MMT 1000 Club
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:50 pm
Posts: 3833
Location: Old East Dallas, Texas
Post Re: starting issues
If you have an oil pressure sensor, its screwed into the side of the block between oil filter and crank case. If you don't have one, there's a plug there. You just disconnect the spade connector ensuring it doesn't ground out.

_________________
Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that


Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:13 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 15 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 114 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to: