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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Pvt 493f cam problems
In the process of a stage 1 put the cam in the other night every thing went fine torqued the case bolts 90in. Pounds in the proper sequence. Sat down to drink a beer maybe 5 to 10 min after and here a ping sound from the motor. Really had me worried but retired for the night cause the beer was tasting to good. This morning I noticed that I couldn't turn the motor over by hand so decided to tear it down again and this is what I found .
1754 gt pushed by stock 35 gtr
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:06 pm |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Looks like improper tooth alighnment with the governor gear, but I could be wrong.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:12 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
^^ this,
You can see the governor gear marks on the cam. Man that sucks! Also the case bolt torque specs should be 200 in. the oil pump to case cover is 90.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:28 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Not saying y'all are wrong but the reason the marks are there is the first time I slid it on it was off so I adjusted it then slid it back on . I just looked at the gov gear there isn't even a mark on it . Wouldn't it have been hard to bolt up if it wasn't aligned right? Don't remember having any trouble . Thanks for the clarification on the torque specs .
1754 gt pushed by stock 35 gtr
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:33 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Pvt 493f cam problems
Also since I mistakenly torqued them to only 90in. Pounds . Would that have been enough pressure to crack the cam like that ?
1754 gt pushed by stock 35 gtr
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:37 pm |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Did you have to bump the cover around to get it to line up or go on? It doesn't take much pressure to crack that cast.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:55 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
From what I remember it went on fairly easy . But I'm leaning towards what y'all are saying . I don't see any thing else that could have happened . Unless it was already cracked and I didn't see it.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:05 pm |
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schmitt
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:33 pm Posts: 1177 Location: WI
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Do they recommmend that hole as the timming mark in the cam?
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:07 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Yeah they did had a tag on it when I received it saying to use the big hole .
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:14 pm |
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schmitt
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:33 pm Posts: 1177 Location: WI
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
The only thing I can think of is something didn't line up right when putting the cover on. But then again u wouldn't of thought the cover would have went all the way on without forcing it.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:21 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Pvt doesnt make the 493f cam. Hope this helps. 
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:44 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
The only thing on the # 1 cylinder side the cam gear that could have caused a binding issue would be the governor gear. if you look at the cams breaking point and split the difference again it puts at 7:30 -8 o-clock the center at the govern gear.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:46 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
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Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:49 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:59 pm |
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autogateman
MMT Sponsor
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:32 pm Posts: 4036 Location: Gonzales La
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Maybe try doing it sober when you put it back together? 
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:12 pm |
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bayouboy
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:08 pm Posts: 5376 Location: Venice, La
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:26 pm |
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pokey79
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:50 pm Posts: 2282 Location: Circumcised, Louisiana
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
so EVT is making cams again? but my buddys cam from PVT had a tag saying use the big timing mark?
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:36 pm |
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50fps
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:41 pm |
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BayouBuster
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:33 am Posts: 1352 Location: Genoa AR
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:45 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Actually now that I look it is an pvt
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:47 pm |
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DUCK HEARSE
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 3161 Location: Alabama
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
send it back
_________________ Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. - Mark Twain
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:49 pm |
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270Handiman
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:46 pm Posts: 2342 Location: Mandeville, LA
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:06 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:07 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Der... just saw the above posts.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:08 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
My bad fellas thought I was getting a 493 I'd edit it if I could but can't edit the title
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:15 pm |
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
You can change the title if you edit the first post, but it ain't no big deal. It doesn't help you solve your problem either way. 
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:18 pm |
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Jamie B.
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:48 am Posts: 2688
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Some of Al's blanks as of recently were missed marked, this is the reason for the other timing mark and the tag explaining what timing mark to use.
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Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:58 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
We'll good news there sending me a new cam in the mail [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND COLD SWEAT]
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Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:09 pm |
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schmitt
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:33 pm Posts: 1177 Location: WI
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Wow that's good of them. Lay off the booze this time 
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Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:25 pm |
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Ben_ huntin
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:12 pm Posts: 120 Location: Mississippi
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
Haha I'll try ..
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Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:41 pm |
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NannySlayer
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:49 pm Posts: 456 Location: S.C.
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
round 2... hahaha
_________________ 17/54 gator Trax 35 mudbuddy... mostly stock
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Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:45 pm |
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GoDevilPro
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:28 pm Posts: 105 Location: Ponchatoula, LA
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 Re: Pvt 493f cam problems
also remember 200in lbs I bought motor they didn't torque to corret and lost 3 bolts and it leaked before I lost bolts now doesn't leak a drop
_________________ Kleibert custom 18/50 push by a 35 gdsd with a lil pixie dust
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