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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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 27 kholer problem
motor not on a mudmotor, it was on my exmark lawnmower.
was cuttin the grass and it died. would spin over fast but not start.
checked all the usual suspects, looked ok.
pulled the sparkplugs, pistons going up and down. pulled the valve covers, valves not moving while motor turning over.
motor only had 650 hrs on it. i put 1500+ hrs on 2 different prodrives with kholers on it. no major problems.
i just threw a new one on it, can't not get the grass cut!!!
anyway, what do u experts think happenned?
i think the gear that turns the cam fell off. i heard that kholer just presses them on, they are not keyed in place anymore. i dunno. so now i got a new paperweight laying in the shop.
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
Either the gear fell off or if it's just pressed on its possible the gear is just turning inside the shaft. Why they would choose to press and not key that particular part defies common sense. If you didn't bend valves there's a possibility you could slap a camshaft in it and keep cuttin'
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
Don't call Bart, bring it to Bart!
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| Tue May 24, 2016 9:48 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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swamp_fox
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:39 pm Posts: 265 Location: St.Amant, LA
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
It died so you pulled the valve covers? When you say you checked the usual suspects..like fuel? If you was getting a spark and it's spinning sounds like no fuel.
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| Tue May 24, 2016 10:11 pm |
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swamp_fox
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:39 pm Posts: 265 Location: St.Amant, LA
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
And could also be kill switches, that can all go out randomly. Like the seat, steering arms, and clutch engage.
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| Tue May 24, 2016 10:13 pm |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
He said engine was turning over faster than normal (indicates a loss of compression) and valvetrain not moving with engine turning. Probably more going on there than a fuel or kill switch issue Id imagine lol
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JLACOUR
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:18 pm Posts: 4915 Location: Lake Jackson, TX
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
I'll start the bid at $50
_________________ 37 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Tiller SOLD -- 36 PD EFI FPR 18x48 Stick Steer SOLD -- 27 PD FPR 16x36 Skiff
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| Tue May 24, 2016 10:44 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
fire....yep fuel...yep key on...yep clutch enguaged....nope safety glasses on...yep appropriate clothing and sensible footwear...yep engine turn over real fast....yep engine sounded like it died a terrible death when it stopped running...yep no valves/pushrods moving when engine turning over and pistons going up and down......yep
$50 might be too much!!!!!!!
had the same thing happen on a lycoming, the gear on the end of the crank that drives the mags and cam came off. no bad damage done, just a pain in the neck to fix right. was lucky it didn't smash the valvetrain or a piston or pushrod or worse.
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| Tue May 24, 2016 11:02 pm |
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
Hey Joel, Your kohler done broke neg.
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dead animal
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm Posts: 1726
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
was gonna tear it apart today, but did a leakdown on the old prodrive and need to do some stuff to it today. got to be in good form for frog season.
the first lady shut me down on my 115 tiller handle merc. said i gots to sell somethin first.
anybody want a 12' deckover with a 300 lycoming for 10K? lol
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| Wed May 25, 2016 8:31 am |
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
I just need a barely running briggs with a good block...
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| Wed May 25, 2016 8:58 am |
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SETx Longtail
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:53 pm Posts: 3480 Location: Hardin County, Tx
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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_________________ Bayou Surface Drive 337-351-0362 Tarkington, TX 77327
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cb5331
MMT Super Elite Member
Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:10 pm Posts: 16915 Location: Rowlett, TX
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
I think Russ has a block for sale... 
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| Wed May 25, 2016 11:13 am |
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Russ
MMT 1000 Club
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:07 pm Posts: 4820 Location: West Monroe, LA
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
Lmao
I can get the window installed so you can keep an eye on your internals. Lol
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MaXXis85
MMT Elite Member
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:23 am Posts: 6233 Location: Tarkington, TX
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 Re: 27 kholer problem
A sight glass!
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swamp_fox
MMT Pro Member
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:39 pm Posts: 265 Location: St.Amant, LA
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