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Ghostly
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Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:21 am Posts: 89
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 what are some simple mods for stock engine?
I am looking for another 100 rpms while running my longtail, 23 vanguard engine all stock I put in a weekend of research on the governor, from what I can tell I'm not gona get any out of it as its a simple butterfly valve an it's all the way open as it is when throttle is applied? I'm looking to get more air flow maybe k&n filter.. Will look into drilling out my main jet 2 bit sizes..
Don't want a new carb. Not yet ready for head work. Anything wrong with my ideas so far?
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flint87
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
Wouldn't fuck with drilling out jets, seen that go wrong many times. Doubtful that a k&n filter is gona do anything for you without any other mods. If you ain't gona spend any money on it you ain't gona feel any difference. Good news is the carb setup for the 23 is cheaper. Having the heads decked locally with a valve job is pretty cheap too. Check the classifieds for a used exhaust. You could do it all under a grand maybe less.
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Ghostly
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Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:21 am Posts: 89
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
Good advice on drilling out jets, that's what I'm trying to feel out
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T-Bubba
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Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:43 pm Posts: 3958 Location: Centerville, La
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
Gut the muffler
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flint87
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Will C
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Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:16 pm Posts: 2107 Location: Gladewater TX
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
One of the small things the 23 likes is a timing key. 7* is common but i like 4* . 7* can sometimes make it a bit hard to start. Advance keys are a cheap way to add cyl pressure.
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Ghostly
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Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:21 am Posts: 89
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
Advance timing? I always herd of retarding the timing (never done it) but retarding creates longer strokes an more power? Correct me if I'm wrong. I would gut the muffler but I like the quiet motors for hunting.
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reharbert
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Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:38 am Posts: 606 Location: Beaumont, Texas
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
It sounds like you need to get a tach, and research the governor a little more. The governor is a mechanical part inside the block. As RPMs increase, it moves a lever that closes the butterfly in the carb. Typically that's about 3600RPMs. You can bend and tweak the governor mechanisms to change the range the governor functions. You can turn it up to 4000-4200 out of water, and in the water its not going to have enough ass to reach those RPMS - but you'll still turn more than you're turning now.
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reharbert
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Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:38 am Posts: 606 Location: Beaumont, Texas
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
It sounds like you need to get a tach, and research the governor a little more. The governor is a mechanical part inside the block. As RPMs increase, it moves a lever that closes the butterfly in the carb. Typically that's about 3600RPMs. You can bend and tweak the governor mechanisms to change the range the governor functions. You can turn it up to 4000-4200 out of water, and in the water its not going to have enough ass to reach those RPMS - but you'll still turn more than you're turning now.
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brycecheramie
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Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 4323 Location: Cut Off, La.
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
Look up Deadbird8's thread on carb mods. He does a lot to the carb, doing away with the hard 90* angles and stuff. Its got a lot of pictures. Ill see if I can dig it up tonight.
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kirk
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Joined: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:52 pm Posts: 870 Location: SW LA
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
Stock carb tuning question https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=ht ... are_type=tSee if this works, dead bird shared some info in this one Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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banded-mallard
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Ghostly
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Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:21 am Posts: 89
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
I have a tach and now I have achieved 3950- 4000 rpms now I'm holding 22mph and touching 23(normal conditions)... satisfied setup feeling strong
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Ghostly
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 Re: what are some simple mods for stock engine?
I appreciate the feed back on deadbirds info
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